The fight goes into grappling, you both go to the ground. You are fighting someone with fisticuffs. But let's consider the second mental masturbation image: How exactly do you propose the deadly eyegouges and groin strikes? Does he strike your groin with his buttocks or lower back? Same thing goes for the second part. What kind of choke are you performing from the front? Seeing as the most dominant position to strive for is the backmount and most chokes come from there. A RNC can be set and done in 4-5 seconds.
This is instinctual for all human beings, because without air or blood to your brain, you are not doing anything. When I choke complete newbs who have never done JJ before, their reaction is to reach up and grab that choking arm. The parts I've bolded presents a conundrum to me, a riddle if you will. It's not like this has been the norm the last 12 years or anything. Hughes proved that a seasoned experienced MMA record is better than clean BJJ from an old fighter from a different time in MMA history. The Gracies were pioneers of the art and are for sure someone to be respected, but they are FAR from top of the pops any more. He wanted to show the world that it was the style, not the man. In fact he was chosen by Rorion because he was young, not exactly a body builder and he didn't have a lot of fight experience. Sadly, watching the UFC does not a grappling master make. Of course, no situation is the same and discussion this is mental masturbation at best. Taking people down on purpose to finish the fight IS an option if there is no risk of being stomped. God forbid YOU lose your balance just by accident. When people clinch in a "free" environment, like a regular fight, chances are someone will lose their balance. In boxing, that's not allowed for too long a time. No thanks, I'll just use my strikes and end it quick.Ĭlick to expand.Without instant knockout or demoralisation for him to stop the fight, when punching or kicking an opponent. Even if I was the top BJJ'er out there, why would I want to take a street fight to the ground and struggle against someone that could have a pocket knife and be striking at my vitals while I work him for chokes. (something he used to do all the time to say BJJ was better than other styles that had minimal ground work)īJJ is king in the cage, not in real fights. Hughes has a great ground game and Gracie couldn't work him down and pound him like someone with no ground game. Experience only matters when you can force it upon your opponent.
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It's like a champion race car driver behind the wheel of a very crappy car against a new driver with a great speed car. The arm-chair master and mysticism of martial knowledge and experience doesn't mean anything when you fight someone that has you beat in speed and power. That fight set a new precedent in the martial arts community. Knowing the techniques isn't everything, physical conditioning is so much more. Look at Tito Ortiz! Look what happened to Gracie when he went against Hughes. Even the stand-out UFC ground guys have a wicked striking game. You have to use a stand-up striking approach on the street, rely on JJ if it goes to the ground (which will rock for you). and you aren't in a position to engage anyone else that wants to jump into the fight. you don't want someone bleeding all over you either. They will target your groin, eyes and throat. In the street, they won't be working their position or grabbing at your wrist. I can wait all day while you choke me with one forearm. When you are working a choke, a smart adversary will grab your other wrist to prevent you from locking the choke in. I guess alot of guys are frustrated at pure BJJ guys that focus on nothing but it, striking is secondary at best, and everything is "ground and pound" to sound tough. But there are so many negatives for taking a street fight to the ground that I would rather be standing up and bash the opponent's brains out with my fists, feet, elbows, and knees. This is a huge reason people start into martial arts, self defense.Ĭertainly knowing JJ will only help you in the UFC and on the street. The arguement is about street self defense. Other people aren't saying that JJ is crap, we know it rocks everything in UFC, but the arguement is that it is better to be a standing striker in a street confrontation instead of shooting someone to the ground.
You will work from the mount, guard, or side and that works great for UFC rules because when you try to work on an opponent you blatently expose vitals that are considered illegal in the rules. The controversy in this is that in JJ you are trying to work a position.
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